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When I was a child my Great Grandmother lived with us. She was Grace Smith Allen McAllister, who appears in the family history below. She was my oldest living relative and the mother of my maternal grandfather, but I was too young to appreciate the information she could have shared about the Smith Family.
Now with the help of the Haas family from New Hampshire and Marie Tyler U'Ren of Maryland, we are slowly reconstructing the history of Grace Smith's family. At this time we are slowly building an understanding of her Father's family. The records below reflect what we have found about Valentine and Anna M Schmidt's and their children.
Please note: the direct line from the earliest known Smith ancestors to Margaret Allen Cook are shown by a larger font size and bold print.
First Generation
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1. Valentine Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt. [1], [2] Born on 20 May 1811 in Germany. [1], [3], [2] Valentine died in Rochester Monroe Co, NY, on 27 Aug 1881; he was 70. [3], [2] Buried in Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Rochester NY. [3] ( See photograph of markers.)Occupation: laborer, daylaborer(1860). [4], [5]
1860 Census has him as Valentin Schmidt, Also listed in 1880 Census
Children listed may include duplicates
died at 34 Tyler, Ward 14, Rochester, NY of Cancer of Ventricali [2]
both parents listed as "foreign" [2]
Based upon the 1860 census, they must have come to the United States between 1848 and 1851.
Valentine married Anna Maria Seltzer, Setzer [1], [6], [7], daughter of Seltzer, Setzer. Born abt 1820 in Germany. [1], [6], [3], [7] Anna Maria died in Rochester Monroe Co, NY, on 21 Nov 1897; she was 77. [3], [7] see the obituary of Anna M. Smith (Schmidt)
They had the following children:
2 i. Mary Ang. (~1842-)
3 ii. Caroline Th. (~1845-)
4 iii. Charles (~1848-<1917)
5 iv. John A (~1849-1917)
6 v. Joseph
(1856-1927)
7 vi. Teresa (Sarah) (1861-<1917)
8 vii. Margaret
9 viii. Carrie
In the 1870 Census only Joseph and Teressa are at home, and 14 year old Joseph is already listed as a Sash and Blind maker!
Second Generation
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Family of Valentine Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt
(1) & Anna Maria Seltzer, Setzer
2. Mary Ang. Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt (Valentine1). [5] Born abt 1842 in Baden. [5]
3. Caroline Th. Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt (Valentine1). [5] Born abt 1845 in Baden. [5]
4. Charles Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt (Valentine1). [5] Born abt 1848 in Baden, Germany. [5] Charles died bef 1917; he was 69.
Charles married Delice (?). (The name is hard to read on the Census.)
They had one child:
10 i. Caroline
5. John A Smith (Valentine Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt1). Born abt 25 Dec 1849 in NY. [6] John A died in Rochester NY, on 9 Dec 1917; he was 67. [6] Occupation: Manufacturer of Sash , Door and Blinds.
lived at 1239 Lake Avenue, Rochester NY [1]
1860 Census has him born in 1851 [5]
John A first married Lillie [8].
John A second married Ida [9].
6. Joseph Smith (Valentine Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt1). Born on 1 Nov 1856 in Rochester, Monroe Co, NY. [1] Joseph died in Rochester NY, on 13 Aug 1927; he was 70. [10] Buried in Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Rochester NY. Occupation: glazier Sash and Door Blind Works. [1]
Family Story -maybe Schmidt, possible name change during WWI, (we now know that this took place much earlier TSC) he and a brother had a sash and door factory on Exchange Street called Smith Sash & Door Company. Lived on Merrimac Street and Wellington Avenue, helped to establish ST. Monica Church - Catholic, lost leg just before he died - died of stroke(?) [11]
died at 331 Wellington Ave, Rochester NY of Cerebral Hemorrhage, other causes Arteriosclerosis. [1]
Van E. Tyler, 331 Wellington Ave is listed as the informant on the Death Certificate [1]
Joseph married Ida A. Titenberg, daughter of Frederick Tietenberg & Caroline Wilhelmina Wundes. Born on 10 Nov 1856 in Rochester Monroe Co, NY. [12] Ida A. died in Monroe Co, NY, on 16 May 1939; she was 82. [12]
They had the following children:
11 i. Sylvia (1874-<1927)
12 ii. Grace
(1878-1960)
13 iii. Louis Robert (1881-1927)
14 iv. Lilian Josephine (1890-1915)
15 v. Ida Marie (Mary) (1893-1976)
7. Teresa (Sarah) Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt (Valentine1). Born in Jan 1861 in New York. [13], [14] Teresa (Sarah) died bef 1917; she was 55.
1900 shows she had three children, only one (Agnes) alive in 1900. [14]
Teresa (Sarah) married John Fricker. Born in Oct 1857 in New York. [14]
They had one child:
16 i. Agnes (1878-)
8. Margaret Smith (Schmitt) (Valentine Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt1). [15]
Margaret married Bradley.
9. Carrie Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt (Valentine1). [16]
Carrie married Bills [16].
Third Generation
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Family of Charles Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt (4) & Delice
(?)
10. Caroline Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt (Charles2, Valentine1). [17]
Family of Joseph Smith (6) & Ida A. Titenberg
11. Sylvia Smith (Joseph2, Valentine Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt1). Born in 1874. Sylvia died bef 1927; she was 53.
12. Grace Smith (Joseph2, Valentine Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt1). Born on 25 Feb 1878 in Rochester NY. Grace died on 3 Mar 1960; she was 82.
Family Story - she belonged to Catholic Church - went to Holy Redeermer School (spoke German) died in nursing home of stroke, like to play cards, owned house of Garson Avernue - given house in will from mother - traveled to California [11]
On 4 Nov 1897 when Grace was 19, she first married Leon Hunt Allen, son of George Ebenezer Allen & Elnora A. Hunt, in Rochester Monroe Co, NY. [18] Born in Jan 1871 in Medina, Orleans Co NY. [19] Leon Hunt died in Rochester NY, on 10 Apr 1926; he was 55. [19]
They had the following children:
i. Arthur Louis
(1898-1979)
ii. Charles J (1903-1978)
Grace second married Thomas McAllister, son of Luke McAllister & Margaret Doyle. Born on 17 Jun 1887 in Colburn Hill, Derby Conn. [20]
13. Louis Robert Smith (Joseph2, Valentine Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt1). Born in 1881. Louis Robert died in 1927; he was 46. Buried in Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Rochester NY.
14. Lilian Josephine Smith (Joseph2, Valentine Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt1). Born on 21 Nov 1890. [21] Lilian Josephine died on 16 Jun 1915; she was 24. [21] Buried on 19 Jun 1915 in Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Rochester NY. [21]
Baptised in Holy Redeemer Church 21 Nov, 1890, John A. Smith and Sarah Fricher were godparents. [22]
Was living at 145 Merrimac Street with parents at time of death [21]
Death was due to "myosthemia gravis", had suffered for two years, also had Bulbar parolysis (progressive) as a contributory cause for one month, 15 days. [21]
Lilian Josephine married Harold Melville Strang. Born on 19 Sep 1888 in Tyrone NY. Harold Melville died in Yonkers, NY, on 23 Jul 1949; he was 60.
They had one child:
i. Murial Grace (1914-2002)
15. Ida Marie (Mary) Smith (Joseph2, Valentine Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt1). Born on 21 Feb 1893 in Rochester NY. Ida Marie (Mary) died on 12 Mar 1976; she was 83. [23] Religion: Roman Catholic, Baptised at Holy Redeemer Church, Rochester NY 12 Mar 1893. [24]
Always called Marie Tyler [25]
TYLER Mrs. Ida Marie, 83, of 435 42nd Ave S., died Friday, March 12, 1976. She was born in Rochester, NY,came here 23 years ago from West Hartford, Conn. Member of St. Josephs Catholic Church. Survived by 2 sons, Major General Paul R. Tyler, USMC Ret., James Tyler, Both of Washington, DC, 5 grandchildren, and 2 great-grandchildren. Friends may call after 2 p.m. at the james mathews Funeral Home, 2025 9th St S. Mass will be celebrated at 10 a.m., Tuesday, at St. Josephs Church. Interment in Calvary Cemetery [26]
In 1912 when Ida Marie (Mary) was 18, she married Van Elroy Tyler. Born on 10 Feb 1888. [27], [23] Van Elroy died in Feb 1968; he was 79. [23]
They had the following children:
i. Paul Robert (1914-2000)
ii. James Elroy (1916-)
Family of Teresa (Sarah) Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt (7) & John Fricker
16. Agnes Fricker (Teresa (Sarah) Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt2, Valentine1). Born in Aug 1878 in New York. [14]
On 22 Aug 1903 when Agnes was 25, she married Joseph Frankenberger [18], son of Enos Frankenberger & Clemtine Ritz, in Rochester Monroe Co, NY. [18] Born in 1884 in Rochester Monroe Co, NY. [18]
They had the following children:
i. Eleanor [28] (~1906-)
ii. Clarence (~1908-)
iii. Anthony (~1914-)
iv. Leander (~1917-)
v. Mary (~1919-)
Fourth Generation
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Family of Grace Smith (12) & Leon Hunt Allen
17. Arthur Louis Allen Sr (Grace Smith3, Joseph2, Valentine Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt1). Born on 25 May 1898 in 25 Hudson Pk, Rochester NY. [28] Arthur Louis died in Brockport NY, on 17 Jul 1979; he was 81. Buried in White Haven Cemetery, Rochester NY.
Family story - worked at Delco Products and Old Northeast Electric - went to #18 school - never owned property in his name - Catholic (Holy Redeemer Church, Clifford Ave, Roch- turned Lutheran, never in military - physical deferment [11]
On 17 Oct 1917 when Arthur Louis was 19, he married Margaret Emily Blekkenk, daughter of Abraham Blekkenk & Mary Amelia (Emma) Kessler. Born on 4 Oct 1898 in 290 Hudson Ave, Rochester NY. [29] Margaret Emily died in Hilton NY, on 29 Sep 1975; she was 76.
They had the following children:
i. Margaret Mildred
(1918-1999)
ii. Arthur Louis (1923-)
18. Charles J Allen (Grace Smith3, Joseph2, Valentine Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt1). Born in 1903. Charles J died in Tenafly N.J., on 7 Mar 1978; he was 75.
Charles J married Lilian. Lilian died on 5 Mar 1998.
They had one child:
i. Ronald Hunt
Family of Lilian Josephine Smith (14) & Harold Melville Strang
19. Murial Grace Strang (Lilian Josephine Smith3, Joseph2, Valentine Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt1). Born on 4 Dec 1914. Murial Grace died in St. Anthony's Hospital, Warwick, Orange Co NY, on 24 Sep 2002; she was 87. [30]
"...Lillian died about six months later (after Murial was born). The address on the death certficate signed by Joseph Smith is 145 Merrimac Street. I think Joseph and Ida took care of Muriel for a short period before she went to live with Harold Strang and his mother. She often talked of her coursins and the gift packages she received from Rochester after she went to live with her father. She is 87 years old now and lives in Warwick NY and her memory is no longer good so we have to depend on mine." [31]
Murial Grace first married Henry Haas.
They had the following children:
i. Margaret (1937-)
ii. Henry John (1938-)
Murial Grace second married Thomas Gilmartin.
They had one child:
i. Patricia
Family of Ida Marie (Mary) Smith (15) & Van Elroy Tyler
20. Paul Robert Tyler (Ida Marie (Mary) Smith3, Joseph2, Valentine Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt1). Born in 1914. Paul Robert died in Easton, MD, on 6 Mar 2000; he was 86. [32]
Military: "Major general USMC, served in South Pacific, China and Philippines during WWII, nad in Korea, quartermaster general of Marine Corps during the Vietnam War. [32]
Paul Robert married R. Rita Carroll.
They had the following children:
i. Marie
ii. Paula J
iii. Carol R
iv. Paul R.
21. James Elroy Tyler (Ida Marie (Mary) Smith3, Joseph2, Valentine Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt1). Born in 1916.
Family of Agnes Fricker (16) & Joseph Frankenberger
22. Eleanor Frankenberger (Agnes Fricker3, Teresa (Sarah) Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt2, Valentine1). [33] Born abt 1906 in Rochester Monroe Co, NY. [33]
23. Clarence Frankenberger (Agnes Fricker3, Teresa (Sarah) Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt2, Valentine1). Born abt 1908 in Rochester Monroe Co, NY. [33]
24. Anthony Frankenberger (Agnes Fricker3, Teresa (Sarah) Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt2, Valentine1). Born abt 1914 in Rochester Monroe Co, NY. [33]
25. Leander Frankenberger (Agnes Fricker3, Teresa (Sarah) Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt2, Valentine1). Born abt 1917 in Rochester Monroe Co, NY.
26. Mary Frankenberger (Agnes Fricker3, Teresa (Sarah)
Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt2, Valentine1). Born abt 1919 in Rochester
Monroe Co, NY. [33]
1. "Transcript from the Register of Death," County
of Monroe, Rochester NY, Office of Vital Records.
2. "Transcript from the Register of Death for Valentine
Schmidt," City of Rochester, Monroe Co NY.
3. Correspondence from Robert Moore to Mary Alice Haas,
"Holy Sepulche data," Oct 2002.
4. "Transcript from the Register of Death for Valentine
Schmidt," City of Rochester, Monroe Co NY, Ward 10, p 265(?).
5. "Federal Census," Monroe County, 1860.
6. "Transcript Register of Death for John A Smith,"
9 Dec 1917, Office of Vital Records, Monroe Co NY.
7. "Transcript from the Register of Death for Anna
Maria Smith," City of Rochester, Monroe Co NY.
8. "Federal Census," Rochester, Monroe Co NY,
1880, familysearch.org.
9. "Federal Census," Monroe County, Rochester
NY, 1910.
10. "Transcript from the Register of Death,"
County of Monroe, Rochester NY, Office of Vital Records, Reg No
2434 rec 15 Aug 2002.
11. "Interview with Margaret Cook," 1978, T.
Cook, Rochester NY.
12. "Certificate of Death for Ida A Smith," May
17, 1939, Rochester, Monroe Co NY, 1398, Dist no. 2701, Department
of Vital Records, Monroe Co NY.
13. "Federal Census," Monroe County, Rochester
14th Ward, 1870, Genealogy.com, 22 Sep 2003.
14. "Federal Census," Rochester, Monroe Co NY,
1900.
15. ""Joseph Smith Obituary"," Rochester
Democrat and Chronicle, Rochester NY, 14 Aug 1927, 22.
16. "Obituary of Anna M Smith," "Rochester
Democrat and Chronicle", Rochester, NY, Tuesday, 23 Nov 1897,
14.
17. "Federal Census," Rochester, Monroe Co, 1870,
11th ward.
18. "Marriage Records," City of Rochester, www2.cityofrochester.net/cs/MarriageRecords.
19. "Transcript from the Register of Death for Leon
H. Allen," Office of Vital Recors, Monroe Co, Rochester NY,
No 1424.
20. "Certified Copy of Thomas McAllister birth certificate,"
23 June 1941, Family Paper Notebook (T.Cook).
21. "Certificate of Death," Issued June 17, 1915,
New York State Department of Health.
22. "Baptismal Record," Church of the Most Holy
Redeemer, Hudson Ave, Rochester NY.
23. "SSDI."
24. "Certificate of Baptism for Ida Mary Smith,"
25 Mar 1941, Church of Holy Redeemer, Rochester NY, sent by Marie
U.
25. Marie U'Ren, "Tyler Family Information,"
29 Mar 2003.
26. "Ida Marie Tyler Obituary," St Petersburg
Fl.
27. "1920 Federal Census," Albany NY, 1920.
28. "Transcript from the Register of Births for Arthur
Louis Allen," 25 May 1898, Office of Vital Records, Monroe
Co, Rochester NY.
29. "Certificate and Record of Birth for Margaret
Emily Blekkenk," 14 Nov 1898, Monroe Co, Rochester NY.
30. "NY State Certificate of Death," 27 Sep 2002,
Warwick, Orange Co.
31. Mary Haas, "Strang Family," 26 June 2002.
32. Arlington National Cemetery, ""Paul R. Tyler
Information"," www.arlingtoncemetery.com/prtyler.htm,
Mar 2000.
33. "Federal Census," Rochester, Monroe CO NY,
1920.
Index
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Delice (?) spouse of 4
Ida spouse of 5
Lilian spouse of 18
Lillie spouse of 5
Allen
Arthur Louis Jr child of 17
Arthur Louis Sr 17
Charles J 18
George Ebenezer parent of spouse of 12
Leon Hunt spouse of 12
Margaret Mildred child of 17
Ronald Hunt child of 18
Bills
UNNAMED spouse of 9
Blekkenk
Abraham parent of spouse of 17
Margaret Emily spouse of 17
Bradley
UNNAMED spouse of 8
Carroll
R. Rita spouse of 20
Doyle
Margaret parent of spouse of 12
Frankenberger
Anthony 24
Clarence 23
Eleanor 22
Enos parent of spouse of 16
Joseph spouse of 16
Leander 25
Mary 26
Fricker
Agnes 16
John spouse of 7
Gilmartin
Patricia child of 19
Thomas spouse of 19
Haas
Henry spouse of 19
Henry John child of 19
Margaret child of 19
Hunt
Elnora A. parent of spouse of 12
Kessler
Mary Amelia (Emma) parent of spouse of 17
McAllister
Luke parent of spouse of 12
Thomas spouse of 12
Ritz
Clemtine parent of spouse of 16
Seltzer, Setzer
UNNAMED parent of spouse of 1
Anna Maria spouse of 1
Smith
Grace 12
Ida Marie (Mary) 15
John A 5
Joseph 6
Lilian Josephine 14
Louis Robert 13
Sylvia 11
Smith , Schmitt, Schmidt
Caroline 10
Caroline Th. 3
Carrie 9
Charles 4
Mary Ang. 2
Teresa (Sarah) 7
Valentine 1
Smith Schmitt
Margaret 8
Strang
Harold Melville spouse of 14
Murial Grace 19
Tietenberg
Frederick parent of spouse of 6
Titenberg
Ida A. spouse of 6
Tyler
Carol R child of 20
James Elroy 21
Marie child of 20
Paul R. Jr. child of 20
Paul Robert 20
Paula J child of 20
Van Elroy spouse of 15
Wundes
Caroline Wilhelmina parent of spouse of 6